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作者: Lucky^    时间: 2007-3-10 17:43
标题: 怎样写论文 Paper
汗呀 ... 什么都8说了 大家好心帮忙:017: :029:
作者: Rache    时间: 2007-3-10 20:29
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首先要看PAPER的TYPE。

如果是LETTER那种建议去NATURE找一篇类似的自己模仿~~

如果是准备投稿或发表的PAPER.....很花时间,通常都在6m+,你得做实验整理数据......经过一系列的process才能坐在电脑前工作,anyway。

传统写法:先写题目,然后写abstract(就是你要写什么),准备几个keyword,接着写正文,从introduction写起,然后写写theory(比如处理数据用的公式,理论依据,anyway~~)然后写result再加discussion,最后总结一下,别忘了感谢+reference。

基本上就是paper了,写好了整理,打印出来送你的BOSS那里去让他‘调试’......

现代写法是,通常认为写了introduction后就写result,人们总是想先知道你发现了什么,把theory系列都放在后面,总结+感谢+reference,END.

自己选一个。我通常用传统写法,我认为还是弄清楚理论后再看实验数据比较logical。假设你的PAPER里有程序和很多的数据表,可以放最后面。(一般没人看这玩意~~)

诚实来说大家都是看了abstract就丢一边了,要看的paper太多,不可能一一仔细看。有些PAPER有上百页......

*不过如果你还没上大学,那么我认为你只要凑字数就行了,anyway~~
作者: FinoAi    时间: 2007-3-11 02:11
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从Rache的回答里也学到了很多。
不过有个地方看得不是很懂。What is "6m+" you mentioned in the third line?
作者: hiddern70    时间: 2007-3-11 04:41
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“6m+” 是6个月以上的意思吗?

要问怎么写的话,那就要看论文的要求了。
作者: Rache    时间: 2007-3-11 20:20
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就是六个月。实际上半年来写PAPER是相当不够的,如果你做完实验只处理数据还差不多的时间。

well,just do it.

当然还有team work,这是一种have to并且相当不舒服的工作,当然我是说如果你像我一样喜欢一个人呆着.....anyway,即使是have to那我建议你做team的leader,假设你不用考虑预算经费或者责任的话。
作者: hiddern70    时间: 2007-3-13 03:41
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嗯,首先要确定自己论文的论点 (thesis statement),然后就是通过查阅大量的材料来寻找相关的事例(evidence)来证明自己的论点,然后作个总结(conclusion),基本上就差不多了。
作者: Nina Chen    时间: 2007-3-14 13:53
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你不说你写什么paper我们怎么帮啊。。。毕竟scientific paper 和 literature paper是很不一样的。。
本人已经脱离写english paper的苦海了~!哈哈
作者: rosinia    时间: 2007-3-15 04:49
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lol, I have a 30 page tech report due in May... god >.> I think I'd rather write English paper...
作者: 四叶    时间: 2007-3-15 09:31
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30 pages!! @@
that's crazy!

I finished my bio report last night...
worked' til 2 in the morning..... @@
so tired....
作者: rosinia    时间: 2007-3-16 06:55
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now... 2am is not late for writing a paper... lots of ppl pulled all-nighters on these things><
作者: Rache    时间: 2007-3-16 23:20
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.....我写过50+页......最后投稿时被改成了12页 - -lll

写PAPER的诀窍是养成一天至少写一段+写LAB NOTE的好习惯.....假设都堆到实验后.....工作量会很惊人吧......
作者: rosinia    时间: 2007-3-17 02:38
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That's for scientific paper only though. You can't do that with either English paper or tech report.
作者: Rache    时间: 2007-3-17 20:04
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Well, that's a part of my life, anyway~~a hobby and a habit, for science. Science = paper + experiments,(almost)

tools:

biomed
cell
nature
science
scifinder
prl

...
作者: Lucky^    时间: 2007-3-18 20:11
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It's too difficult to finish a scientific paper.cos i m not good at doin' experiment actually.Is there any other kind of paper? About Art,history,geography ,economy or something else.I ll take tham for practisin'
Thx u guyz all! Helped me a lot .
作者: Rache    时间: 2007-3-18 22:54
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well, actually i know nothing about history or economy~~ newspaper may help~~

My major is Molecular Biology and Partical Physics~~~~
作者: rosinia    时间: 2007-3-21 03:36
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Well, for History, just pick a period you want to know about, read some general info, and then pick a topic.

After you've got your topic set (make it narrow, as narrow as possible. First it can be about a person or government's action and reaction toward an event, but when you write the paper, you have to narrow it down to one single opinion and one specific topic) and then dig into the library and start reading. Don't read the all the books, make use of the index, you'll probably only need to read 1 to 2 chapters in most books. But you have to find at least two book that's specific to your topic, you can only find deep disscussions in those.

Also research into historians that specializes in your topic, and try to find their books. You should be able to get them in university libraries.

And then you also need first hand documents, books are usually secondary. You need to find newspapers, documents etc. that were written or made during the event of your interest.

Then comes the analysis. You have to see why each person (be it the historian or the person who made the comments in the document) are saying what they say, look into their background, and their position of interest. Dig up all the proofs you can find that support your thesis.

Then is the writting. Group your thoughts into sections, and write them down. Remember to refer to the historian's views and make mention of opposing views and how you think they might make sense and how your argument is still better than theirs.

Remember to keep a log of all those ppl you are citing, and write them down in the bibliography, otherwise you are dead meat><
作者: hiddern70    时间: 2007-3-21 05:49
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One more thing, don't forget about the format. (such as MLA, etc)
作者: 可爱柯南    时间: 2007-3-21 09:24
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别跟我提paper。。。我都要吐了。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。

也许我们才first year。。。说实话那些东西挺好写的。。
但是我就是不喜欢写-V-。。。。
作者: 4everluv    时间: 2007-3-21 09:25
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work cited 建议使用noodletools
作者: Rache    时间: 2007-3-21 23:29
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BTW,建议finish后去学生中心找秘书帮你CHECK,她们一般都乐意帮忙的,有一次她还帮我打过我的草稿......
作者: rosinia    时间: 2007-3-22 02:13
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Well... about format: If your teacher/prof specified it, just follow the instruction.
Otherwise...
English: MLA
History: Chicago
Science:...?No idea>< MLA?
EE/CE: IEEE
other Engineering reports: ...choose whichever you like

and... Rache... that secretary is just WAY too nice T_T
作者: 可爱柯南    时间: 2007-3-22 10:14
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science的话每个还不一样= =。。。
chemistry is ACS。。bio。。。 I forgot><~
作者: Terence    时间: 2007-4-12 09:23
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[quote=可爱柯南]science的话每个还不一样= =。。。
chemistry is ACS。。bio。。。 I forgot><~[/quote]everyone's iq is quite different:009:
作者: shaodog    时间: 2007-4-18 16:37
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[QUOTE=Rache]首先要看PAPER的TYPE。

如果是LETTER那种建议去NATURE找一篇类似的自己模仿~~

如果是准备投稿或发表的PAPER.....很花时间,通常都在6m+,你得做实验整理数据......经过一系列的process才能坐在电脑前工作,anyway。

传统写法:先写题目,然后写ab...[/QUOTE]

Nature。。。。。。好遥远,我们这里能投PRL就很强了

一般第一篇paper比较难写,后面的都是同一系列的工作就好些多了

P。S。 好想有Core Dual 6600的CPU。。。。现在AMD3600+的CPU模拟一套结果要7*24h+。。。。。。
作者: Rache    时间: 2007-5-2 23:17
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....个人认为在物理科目单独上的位置PRL高于NATURE.....

正在努力发PAPER...

通宵达旦地写 - -lll
作者: Lucky^    时间: 2007-5-3 18:42
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总之第一次就很难啦
作者: lslzlzw    时间: 2007-5-5 05:06
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今年9月也要写personnal statement给大学了~~~期待!
作者: the_sun    时间: 2007-5-9 01:11
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要看写什么学科的论文啦~
我比较熟悉写社会科学和经济学的~
我这有两篇自己还拿得出手的文章哦~有兴趣可以问我要……我今年去英国啦~   LSE给了个机会让我参加Entrance Exam 可惜偶没考上 (T_T)...  有兴趣可以mail我~  6月考试了……唉……
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作者: shaodog    时间: 2007-5-21 14:36
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[QUOTE=Rache]....个人认为在物理科目单独上的位置PRL高于NATURE.....

正在努力发PAPER...

通宵达旦地写 - -lll[/QUOTE]
nature & science 是综合性的前沿报道

专业方面最高的还是PRL

P。S。我们系有个boss挺牛的,手下的学生大部分发PRL的,他自己还有PRL的封面paper

P。S。S。终于把初稿写完了。。。。。14 pages,感觉写的比较长。。。。不过要压缩起来估计还挺困难的,因为simulation的图实在多。。。投letters是没希望了。。。不管怎么样先扔给boss初审了。。。。。今天可以轻松点了
作者: shaodog    时间: 2007-5-21 14:40
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[QUOTE=Lucky^]总之第一次就很难啦[/QUOTE]
一般工作是系列性的

第一篇搞定后,后面都是建立在第一篇的基础上来写的,所以比较容易了
作者: Rache    时间: 2007-5-22 23:45
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我已经写了40页....BOSS还要我修改,真是FAINT啊....

可怕的是每次我去见他我们总是提出一些新东西,这样我就不得不回去改PAPER.....

如果发表了我会很震撼,毫无疑问,因为我听一个中国人说在中国发表NATURE/CELL LEVEL的PAPER会得到10万的奖励......

(是真的吗???那可真不错!!!!!!!)




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