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4everluv

上一个季度[7-9月]的奖励30CB颁给KUDONOYO
KDNY不但积极参与了很多的讨论，而且最初这个点子也是他提议的
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[ 本帖最后由 4everluv 于 2007-10-14 16:13 编辑 ]

4everluv

this is a topic i wanted to discuss long time ago, but i hesitated.

do people around you  who come from taiwan call themselves"taiwanese" and emphasize that taiwanese and chinese are different?

i dont know if it's just in our area. it happens a lot here. ...

[and please dont go too extreme [politically] ..peace...peace = =]

[ 本帖最后由 4everluv 于 2007-10-18 22:14 编辑 ]

SSV

Yes, but that's okay. I don't talk to other people anyway.

[ 本帖最后由 SSV 于 2007-10-19 11:27 编辑 ]

KUDONOYO

一回来就看到奖钱了，好开心=)
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How time flies.. the last time I was here we were talking about school year schedules.. and now I am already pre-registering for next semester.
And as for the Taiwanese thing.. yes people around me do that. There's even an official Taiwanese Student Association on campus. But the thing is that it totally depends - I know the president of Taiwanese Student Association in person, and he loves to stress that he is from Taiwan, and therefore he's Chinese. Another Taiwanese American girl on my floor talks as though Taiwan is heart of Asia and stuff. She never talks to me unless she can't finish her Chinese homework. How ironic.

4everluv

but the statement i heard was : taiwan&china = britain&USA .....

it comes from a person i really admire; i was really surprised when he said it..ihe was quite an intelligent person

[ 本帖最后由 4everluv 于 2007-10-19 23:38 编辑 ]

海外联盟

原帖由 4everluv 于 2007-10-15 04:55 发表
上一个季度[7-9月]的奖励30CB颁给KUDONOYO
KDNY不但积极参与了很多的讨论，而且最初这个点子也是他提议的
GXGX
奖励近期发放 请注意查收

奖励已发XD

大肚肚

I avoid to talk about Taiwan-Mainland with people, even when they are all "mainlanders". Like we from our heart we know that "TW is a part of China", people from that island, especially young people, consider TW as an independent country. They really should give credit to Mr. Bian who have avoided this problem for a long time and spread the seed of "TW Independence" in people's hearts.
I guess I'm not a Angry Youth who wants to kill all the people thinking that way, but that idea really annoys me. Luckily I've not met anyone who would verbally abuses Mainlanders (although there are loads of Taiwanese here), and I won't have much time to think logically when I meet him/her~
WELL, let's just wish THE PARTY's 17 BIG can actually do something...

4everluv

原帖由 大肚肚 于 2007-10-20 00:20 发表
I avoid to talk about Taiwan-Mainland with people, even when they are all "mainlanders". Like we from our heart we know that "TW is a part of China", people from that island, especially young people, ...

strongly agree.. they annoy me very much. especially when they try to emphasize on TWNESE part... so annoy = =

[lolz..] the party's 17 big? haha

[ 本帖最后由 4everluv 于 2007-10-20 00:28 编辑 ]

hiddern70

Well....
Not very much.
Also, when they introduce themselves, they usualy say that they come from Taiwan instead

SSV

原帖由 大肚肚 于 2007-10-20 13:20 发表
I avoid to talk about Taiwan-Mainland with people, even when they are all "mainlanders". Like we from our heart we know that "TW is a part of China", people from that island, especially young people, ...

Can you see it Du? Humans are selfish. As a consequence, the problem will never be resolved peacefully.  When moral diplomacy fails, war will be the only answer. Of course, nobody likes wars, but still....our knownledge limits us to find a better answer for it.

It's just my personal opinion.

SSV

原帖由 4everluv 于 2007-10-20 12:20 发表
but the statement i heard was : taiwan&china = britain&USA .....

it comes from a person i really admire; i was really surprised when he said it..ihe was quite an intelligent person

He used the wrong equation.
Let me show you the right one:

taiwan&china = Israel&Palestine

4everluv

= = sighs...maybe i'll be used to it in next 2000 years.

大肚肚

原帖由 SSV 于 2007-10-22 08:56 发表


Can you see it Du? Humans are selfish. As a consequence, the problem will never be resolved peacefully.  When moral diplomacy fails, war will be the only answer. Of course, nobody likes wars, but st ...

Actually, war could be the only answer as the TW government keep wasting time, I suppose.

SSV

原帖由 4everluv 于 2007-10-22 10:40 发表
= = sighs...maybe i'll be used to it in next 2000 years.

Are you sad?
You see, not even an angel like you can convince yourself to stop thinking about the unification of two. What of the
other people who are in power?

[ 本帖最后由 SSV 于 2007-10-22 11:55 编辑 ]

SSV

原帖由 大肚肚 于 2007-10-22 10:43 发表

Actually, war could be the only answer as the TW government keep wasting time, I suppose.

The more time they wasted, less chance they would win. Let's just pray for a quick war, so that fewer or no
people would get hurt.

大肚肚

原帖由 SSV 于 2007-10-22 11:54 发表


The more time they wasted, less chance they would win. Let's just pray for a quick war, so that fewer or no
people would get hurt.

Again I actually agree with you on this problem, totally..

SSV

原帖由 大肚肚 于 2007-10-22 12:00 发表

Again I actually agree with you on this problem, totally..

LOL. It seems that we share the same polical view.

4everluv

原帖由 SSV 于 2007-10-21 22:46 发表


Are you sad?
You see, not even an angel like you can convince yourself to stop thinking about the unification of two. What of the
other people who are in power?

well i cannot help myself= = i was taught this way in China, therefore, heavily influenced by this idea although I have never spoken up against those "taiwanese" here.

4everluv

the party's 17 big has ended... did they come up with anything?

SSV

原帖由 4everluv 于 2007-10-23 12:18 发表

well i cannot help myself= = i was taught this way in China, therefore, heavily influenced by this idea although I have never spoken up against those "taiwanese" here.

So you have been polically brainwashed. Well, no matter what your real belief is, you should never argue with
them, because in the end of the argument, you will feel nothing but hatred and anger towards the people who
are on the opposite side. This issue is far beyond our ability to resolve. It's better to just keep it inside or even
better forget it.
However, once you're in power, you should act based on the will of the majority, regardless what your true belief
is.

[ 本帖最后由 SSV 于 2007-10-23 13:36 编辑 ]