lara·潘 发表于 2005-4-10 21:09:34

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老虎表死………………拖住……

偶知道偶水不好……但老想找个贴子找人说话嘛…………这不是看见熟人就凑上来了……………………
对不起哦……>.<

JacieNL 发表于 2005-4-10 21:12:26

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放出来了啊~~

握爪,遂拽住不放,安乐死你凑虾米热闹……

PS:lara姐看不看《人物周刊》?(完了,越扯越远)

Aquavit 发表于 2005-4-10 21:13:42

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噢,打捞成功了.....

庆祝!

PS,院长

代码在...?

lara·潘 发表于 2005-4-10 21:14:23

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人物周刊? 那是虾米?

JN介绍下!!!^_________________^

p.s.俺也不赞成老虎安乐死!!!反对两票!少数服从多数!^o^

JacieNL 发表于 2005-4-10 21:23:52

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老头子先生,可爱的代码们都在一楼。

MS现在不见的是老虎,打捞老虎中(旁:你不是拽着吗?)

PS:全称《南方人物周刊》,和南方周末一出版集团的,这期有关于安乐死的新闻评论。

lara·潘 发表于 2005-4-10 21:27:15

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>o<

俺连南方周末都不看……躲去角落啜泣……

Iswing 发表于 2005-4-10 21:37:07

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哦哦,这个软件不错

PS:院长的代码,是VB写的吗

Aquavit 发表于 2005-4-10 21:38:35

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读读源代码就好了~~运行不能~~~~

这都是因为实验室的电脑对中文一窍不通的缘故~~~~而我自己的电脑搭载的只有程序界面~~~~

不管怎么说,庆祝一下。准备写...

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                         For   Genetic Algorithms (GA)
                                                  ---------I love you so much.



(先发个题目,逃~~)

panzerVI 发表于 2005-4-10 21:41:38

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虎被JN拽出中~

这个是VC写的哈~
老头子快写遗传算法^_^

lara·潘 发表于 2005-4-10 21:49:49

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嗷!!!老虎!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

好英俊啊!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~>o<~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

奔来水的lara迅速奔走……

Aquavit 发表于 2005-4-10 21:54:26

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那个......

我得回实验室上班,明天再说吧......

逃走的老头子,被追杀

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TODAY

早上九点以前赶到实验室,拿样本,教授老头子说8组两个样本(看来午饭是肯定没有了~~我未来一个月的休息时间也消失了~~果然是黑色的星期一)

忙到十点,对照用的MODEL总算处理完成,回实验室A取药品装瓶~~(就是放在GCMS专用的瓶子里,倒是很好玩,我特别喜欢这个瓶子^^)

等送到分析室都快11点了,肚子开始饿~~但是艰苦才刚刚开始。

分析实验室很狭窄,我们都坐在玻璃后面(参见电影HULK中的场景),因为教授想坐着所以我就只好站着(椅子资源不足而且土地资源缺乏严重)。这样站着等结果数据等到快一点,直到教授说午餐时间为止。

令人不快的是MODEL的四个瓶中只有A是OK,其他三个都是F,这样等于还得再来一次~~~~~~~~

大BOSS先生说什么呢?

大BOSS先生说没关系我们周三不是有空可以再来一次嘛......(晕倒.....)

由于将很长时间没有午饭吃,所以增肥计划完全停止中~~

挂在实验室处理幸存数据的老头子,GA的续文很遥远

释然 发表于 2005-4-12 17:24:41

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本来不擅长描写人物的我就一直不敢写同人小说。
现在,再加上科学问题,看来我真的是要彻底放弃写同人了!
唉!

panzerVI 发表于 2005-4-13 00:11:04

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再把这贴顶顶XD

TAGATGATTCAATCAATCGTAGAATAAGTGGTTCAGTCTATGGATGTATGATTCGTAGAATCTATGCCAGAATAAGTGCATCTTTGTTAGCGTAACTGATTCTAAGATAGATAGAT

TAGTAGAATGCATGCCTCTGTGTTAGAATTTTAGAATGTGTGCCTCAGTGTTTCTGTGTTTCAGAGAATGATTGCGTGTAAGAATGTTTCTGTGTTTCAGTCCGTCCGTCCG

Aquavit 发表于 2005-4-13 15:01:56

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DING......

迅速逃回实验室的老头子,附送早上扫描NATURE的新文章

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Cancer test stretches limits  /Roxanne Khamsi

A device that detects cancerous cells by measuring their stretchiness has been developed by researchers in Germany. The highly sensitive device, which is the size of a shoebox, uses a laser to take its measurements.

Traditional methods of testing for cancer require 10,000-100,000 abnormal cells in order to work. But the new technique can provide an answer with as few as 50 tumour cells, so that much smaller samples would need to be taken from patients.

So far, testing of the new technology has focused on diluted cell mixtures in the lab, but its creators hope to see its eventual use in hospitals. "We really have a clinical application in mind," says Josef K&auml;s of the University of Leipzig, Germany, who helped to build the device.

The laser test relies on the fact that healthy cells contain an inner scaffolding called the cytoskeleton that helps to hold their contents in place. When cells become cancerous, the cytoskeleton recedes and they become more elastic as a result.

Momentous light

When a laser beam from the device enters a cell, the light gains momentum because of the different conditions inside. According to the law of conservation of momentum, the cell must lose an equal but opposite amount, so its membrane bends towards the light source. "The cell gets a kick backwards," explains K&auml;s. When the laser light leaves the cell, it loses momentum and drags the cell's opposite edge along with it. By applying a continuous beam, the cell gets stretched to its limit.

Without a strong cytoskeleton, cancerous cells are 40% easier to extend than their healthy counterparts. And cells from 'metastasized' tumours — those that have spread through the body — are an additional 30% more stretchy than early-stage cancer cells. This means that the laser could potentially assess how far the disease has advanced. "The softest ones are the most aggressive," says K&auml;s.

Currently, doctors cannot diagnose metastasis without discovering the location of the secondary tumours. The new laser-based method would pick up on metastasis based on cell elasticity alone, he says. In breast cancer, for example, the researchers believe this would mean fewer mastectomies carried out unnecessarily on the basis of guesswork about how far the disease has spread.

Sensitive issue

The test should be much more sensitive than cancer tests that simply use molecular markers to tag renegade cells. K&auml;s explains that when cancer-causing genes begin to act in a cell they produce a small change in its structural proteins, but this has an exponential impact on elasticity. The underlying changes in the cell's DNA, which are the focus of current cancer-detection methods, are nowhere near as dramatic.

Given a sample that contains at least 50 tumour cells, the laser can spot cancer more than 90% of the time, its creators claim. Nevertheless, further studies are needed to determine whether it can spot all types of cancer. "That will take years of testing," says K&auml;s, who presented the findings at a meeting of the Institute of Physics in Warwick, UK, this week.

Talk that such a machine could replace a microscope for cancer screening is "rather premature", says Peter Sasieni, a spokesman for London-based charity Cancer Research UK. He adds, however, that the "highly innovative" device could have future clinical applications.

玻璃瓶里的小鸟 发表于 2005-4-14 12:33:50

回复: 回复:

彼得大帝,你为“世界的本原是什么?
我们来到这个世界的目的是什么?
宇宙的目的又是什么?”而疑惑吗?思考这种问题是相当困难的,因为你手头没有指向明确的材料,所以目前它的回答就是多种多样的,且你没办法反驳其中的大多数。比如我这么说,我们来到世界上

这个世界到底有终极答案吗?
我以为——没有%&109

“证伪是绝对的,证实是相对的。”

玻璃瓶里的小鸟 发表于 2005-4-14 13:02:59

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太晕了--0
99%都没看懂,泪ing

玻璃瓶里的小鸟 发表于 2005-4-14 17:46:57

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我想问一下那个学大脑科学的,你能告诉我:大脑在思考简单问题和复杂问题时消耗的能量是否一样多吗?

谁的马甲 发表于 2005-4-14 19:19:44

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代表变异猫科上来闪一下……(喂)

panzerVI 发表于 2005-4-14 19:34:33

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我想问一下那个学大脑科学的,你能告诉我:大脑在思考简单问题和复杂问题时消耗的能量是否一样多吗?
好像是在召唤老头子……?

大脑耗能除了和复杂性有关,显然也不能忽略问题规模这个因素吧。或者将复杂问题等同视为简单问题的叠加?那么耗能应该也是增加的……

PS: 变异猫科?可以……贴图来看看吗……

玻璃瓶里的小鸟 发表于 2005-4-14 19:46:55

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嘿嘿,答错了的说。大脑在思考要不要把你的宠物猫放出去和思考高等数学时耗能是一样的哈
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