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4everluv

- - nah, let me stuck on it til my hair's white.. you can go rest if you want to lol..
still thx for teh patience!

SSV

how many ways of mind controlling did he talk about?

[ 本帖最后由 SSV 于 2009-7-23 16:05 编辑 ]

SSV

we know the book talks about mind controlling. What are the purposes of mind controlling? What are the ways to achieve a harmony between your mind and your body?

If you don't want to go any deeper, you could easily write a 3-page paper by answering and explaining those two questions.

Breathing --- your body
Empty your mind - your mind

[ 本帖最后由 SSV 于 2009-7-23 15:36 编辑 ]

4everluv

breathing and be aware of breathing.. doing things and be aware of doing things... that seems like to be the ultimate truth= =

SSV

原帖由 4everluv 于 2009-7-23 15:34 发表
breathing and be aware of breathing.. doing things and be aware of doing things... that seems like to be the ultimate truth= =

What is the ultimate truth?

4everluv

be conscious.....


and i'm. not. making. sense. ahhh

SSV

what is the purpose of breathing and be aware of breathing.. doing things and be aware of doing things?

SSV

原帖由 4everluv 于 2009-7-23 15:38 发表
be conscious.....


and i'm. not. making. sense. ahhh

是为了清除杂念，当人清除了一切杂念，他就感受不到痛苦，多数只精神上的。
这里面有六道轮回的关系。

4everluv

ya... something like that.

SSV

般若波罗蜜多心经里面说过，
观自在菩萨 行深般若波罗蜜多时 照见五蕴皆空 度一切苦厄

心无罣碍 无罣碍故 无有恐怖 远离颠倒梦想

4everluv

how do i change it and not making it awkward = =
"The moments when we are mindful of things, work toward greater self-understanding and peacefulness.

"

SSV

下面是解释，我转的

【心无挂碍】这个心，是毫无挂碍，人空法空，寂灭轻安的大自在心，视世间出世间一切一切皆量等虚空，无有边际，包罗万有，了无挂碍。心且不有，挂碍何依？苦厄安在？


【无挂碍故，无有恐怖，远离颠倒梦想】心里既是净空无见，白天没有想象，夜间自无乱梦，正如千眼千手，圆照十方，岂有颠倒？凡人恐怖，先有一个得失心，就是有我的果，正是六道生死的种性。如能心空法空，登于佛位，两个生死已了。菩萨再来世间，是大悲愿力，不是业力，自然没有恐怖，颠倒梦想，都远离了，到了生灭灭已，寂灭为乐的境界了。


【究竟涅盘】这涅盘是清净的意思。二乘人是有余涅盘，不是究竟；这究竟涅盘是佛位，名为无余涅盘，连涅盘亦不可得。所谓成了佛，也没有成佛的法见。本来涅盘是对生死说的，既本来没有生死，亦安有涅盘，不过同是个假名罢了。这是菩萨的果德。

4everluv

dont understand?

SSV

六道轮回中的人道
我转的，但是你一定要读非常重要，究竟有什么样的苦，佛法又能解什么样的苦。

人道
　　众生因不善业而投生于三恶道，而因善业而感召生于三善道之果报。在三善道中，生于天界之福报最大，修罗道次之，人间则再次之，但人间却是最适宜修持佛法的地方。
　　投生人道的痛苦，主要可被归纳为四苦，即生苦、老苦、病苦及死苦。
　　对老、病及死苦，我们或多或少都会有一点了解。对于生苦，我们或许不太明白，亦无法记起自己在母胎内乃至出生过程所经历的痛苦了。在母胎内的近九个月间，婴儿所受的痛苦很大。虽然我们现在记不起了，但这不代表我们当时没有感觉。在出胎时，婴儿所受的苦更大。在出生后，我们连少许保护自己的能力也没有。若不是父母的守护照顾，我们可能只会存活几分钟，便会被野兽吃了或者冷死、饿死了。
　　老苦并非单单指老年之苦，而是指从入胎开始逐步走向死亡之苦。如果我们能活到老年，这种苦则更为明显。在年老时，我们的身体机能衰退，走多几步路也举步为艰，胃口也不好，脸上的皮肤变得像猴子似的，有很多事情想做也做不来。在五浊恶世年代，年轻人不懂敬老，老人益发感到自己不受欢迎。这老苦就像一个小偷，不知不觉间便把我们的青春偷去了。对不懂佛法的人来说，老苦包含了身心之苦。对通晓佛法的人来说，心上可以不觉苦，视老化为一种自然的事，但肉体上的老苦，则仍然无法回避。
　　病苦分为外在及内在病患两种。外病是如胃疼、癌症及肺病的种种病患。它们最大的威胁也不过是致死而已，影响力只及今生。内苦是贪念、瞋恨及愚痴等烦恼。因为它们能驱使我们的身、语、意作出如杀生等种种不善行为，致令祸延长至无量劫的未来多次转生受可怕的痛苦果报，所以它们绝对比外病严重。如果我们今生患了严重的胃病，不过是受几年苦，顶多也不过是病至死亡而已。但如果我们生起强烈的瞋心，这便会令理智失常，甚或因而出手杀生，这便结下了多生多世短寿及投生于三恶道的因缘，万劫不复。这一连串的多生苦报，亦只源出于一念之瞋。由此可见，心病是极为可怕的。
　　有关死苦，并不单指死亡时肢节及肉体所承受之痛苦，而且包括到时伴随之恐惧及不安。这些我们刚才在讨论死亡过程时已详说了，在此不再重复了。
　　在人间投生，除了上述四苦外，还有求不得苦、受别离苦、怨憎会苦及五取蕴苦。这些在《菩提道次第广论》中有述，衲现在也不多说了（注：可参考法师著作《甘露法洋》）。

SSV

原帖由 4everluv 于 2009-7-23 15:47 发表
dont understand?

心无挂碍

如何做到心无挂碍，
如何清除杂念，
不就是那本书里要讲的吗，

SSV

原帖由 4everluv 于 2009-7-23 15:45 发表
how do i change it and not making it awkward = =
"The moments when we are mindful of things, work toward greater self-understanding and peacefulness.

"

think of a real situation, imagine this, have you ever get mad at someone (okay, hopefully not me) to the point where you just couldn't take no more, here is where the mind controlling comes in and could save your relationship or something like that.

self-understanding is important, but you could also use it in human relation. What is humanity anyway?

[ 本帖最后由 SSV 于 2009-7-23 15:56 编辑 ]

4everluv

人类学？ i dont know..lol

SSV

原帖由 4everluv 于 2009-7-23 16:07 发表
人类学？ i dont know..lol

So, am I helpful at all?

SSV

say if you are a business owner, and your employee did something that he shouldn't do. What would you do? Would you yell at him or Would you reason with him or whatever? Self-controlling is important especially when you're dealing creatures that have feelings.

If I were you, I would explain the purposes of mind-controlling first (tell them the benefits), then talk about the details of how you do it, and then think of some real situations, and apply, and at last I would do a counter-argument, or a rebuttal.

[ 本帖最后由 SSV 于 2009-7-23 16:21 编辑 ]

4everluv

ya ... thanks! lol